Kamaru Usman is overrated and his UFC legacy doesn’t justify the hype compared to what we…
Woodley’s middleweight reign hits different, bruv. Usman fluked his way to the strap off that gaudy decision against Woodley in 2019—proves the division was pretty damn shallow once he took the belt off Tyron. Meanwhile, Woodley battered everyone from Lawler to Maia with that welterweight-champ power; you really think a six-year-old Usman highlight reel of decision wins stacks up? Spare me.
Show me your ROI first 😏
Usman overrated? Mate, Tyron just handed him the belt on a silver platter because he knew the man couldn’t be trusted to stay at welterweight. You call Woodley’s middleweight run dominant—right up there with Usman’s streak—yet you’re somehow downplaying it like it’s some consolation prize. Woodley stopped Lawler cold, out-grappled Maia like it was a Sunday stroll, and didn’t need a whole decade of decisions to look like a champion. Usman’s CV? Six years of circling, poking, and praying no one catches him in transition. Where’s the power? Where’s the damage? Against Covington—an elite wrestler, mind you—he looked like a guy who’d never thrown a clean overhand in his life. Woodley ate pressure like it was bread, Woodley broke people like chairs, Woodley made middleweight feel small. Usman? He made welterweight feel average.
Sample first, conclusions after.
nah mate Woodley got squeezed by covington and adesanya when it mattered 😭 WHAT'S THAT GOTTA DO WITH USMAN? we watched our guy take that belt OFF WOODLEY in 2019 and then straight-up DISMANTLE him like he was a demo mannequin next year 🔥🔥 you're talking like woodley carried some kind of iron throne but then ask yourself—who kept the division afloat when every other welter BURNED OUT like a faulty bulb? usman DID! 5 defenses, zero squeaks, all kinds of ass whoopin' from southpaw stings to powerhouse pokes! woodley? two cracks at middleweight and bam—ONE went south against stipe. one and done! we've got a HUSTLE MACHINE not a fluke prince, simple as that! 💪😱
You don't abandon your own.
You really think a six-year highlight reel of decision wins is anything to write home about when the man could barely finish a 55-second round? Woodley’s middleweight reign wasn’t some consolation-prize procession—it was a wrecking ball through a division that had just seen the firepower of Lawler and Maia. Usman’s belt defense streak? Context-free, because Tyron handed him that strap when he’d already lost his legs, let alone his fire. Woodley didn’t need a decade of decision squeaks to look like a welterweight king; he needed one five-round clinic. You want to talk dominance? Watch Stipe walk through a prime Lawler like he was carrying a side salad, watch Woodley turn Maia’s guard into scrap metal. Five defenses? Make that two cracks at middleweight, one of which evaporated before the second bell. Which legacy still feels heavier in 2024?
Do the math before you argue.
ahhh the old “belt in his pocket” days of tyron just lurkin round welterweight like he was already 37 going on 87 remember woodley’s last welterweight run when he was lookin fit and mean as all hell? dude stopped robbie lawler cold in front of 20k people at the forum it was brutal math on that card they were selling seats for twenty bucks you could still hear the bones go CRACK from the cheap seats usman had to earn every inch of that welterweight belt because back then nobody just handed you a throne just for showin up with a 12-1 cv
Remember when the grass was greener 🌱
you ever try carrying a fridge up three flights of stairs in the middle of july just to prove you’re not a fluke—no arguments, no judges, just sweat and that one stair that always creaks? that’s how it felt watching woodley stroll into middleweight and leave lawler’s face lookin like he’d been on the wrong end of a hammers in a diy show. usman’s 2019 “win”? an old man who’d already lost to colby strolled out there with hollow legs and a prayer that one judge could smell the desperation. you want dominant? watch woodley put maia to sleep in round one like it was a sunday afternoon nap—no decisions, no drama, just chair-shaped humans on the canvas. usman’s reign was built on judges nodding hard enough to break their own pencils; woodley’s middleweight run was a wrecking ball coated in spiked leather.
Remember when the grass was greener 🌱
You ever stood in a pub when the big screen’s on and half the blokes in there are suddenly wearing Colby Covington jerseys just ‘cause he stepped in for the main card? Woodley’s 2019 title win over Robbie Lawler wasn’t just a stoppage—it was a middleweight division crying uncle. The Forum sold out weeks early, brooms weren’t enough to sweep up all the broken seat backs after those first two rounds. Meanwhile Usman’s “easy” 2019 decision over Tyron? Watched it with my cousin in a Wetherspoons where half the room was still muttering about the scorecards before the pints even arrived. That’s the difference. Woodley’s power wasn’t a fluke in a gym video—it was bone-on-bone carnage in front of 20k people who’d paid to see something get wrecked.
Every time Woodley walked into that cage at 160 after bulldozing Rob Lawler with that first-round right hand, I swear the crowd noise hit the rafters like a thunderclap you could feel in your molars. Yet somehow we’re still arguing about whether that wrecking-ball streak counts for more than Usman’s three-day highlight tape on ESPN—mind you, I’ve watched both, and the difference is night and day. Woodley didn’t just beat Lawler; he dismantled him in a welterweight bout where every punch echoed off the Forum walls and the octagon felt like a front-row seat. Usman, on the other hand, spent most of 2019-2022 weaving and praying no one lands the first big shot, while Woodley spent his whole run breaking people like matchsticks. But here’s my caveat: if we’re talking “dominance,” Woodley’s middleweight burst was lightning in a bottle—two fights, two knockouts, and done. Meanwhile Usman actually kept the welterweight throne breathing for six years straight, no champions skipping town, no late-night collapses. Different eras, different rules, but the fact remains: Woodley made middleweight scream mercy, and Usman carried the welterweight division on his back like Atlas after War of the Gods marathon.
Numbers > vibes.
Yo lads, let’s be real here—Woodley’s 2019 UFC Paris run wasn’t just some random hot streak, it was a middleweight **tidal wave** that hit the shore at 160 and left carnage in every corner. That KO over Robbie Lawler? Not even a decision, not even close—Robbie’s face ended up lookin’ like a smashed-in apple carton after that first round. Meanwhile, what’s Usman’s “dominance” built on? A guy who spent half his reign in decision limbo with judges who scribbled down scores before the first bell even rang? Six defenses is all well and good, but when the best among ‘em were guys like Covington and Adesanya looking baffled more than battered, you’ve gotta ask—was it really *dominance* or just bum luck with the cards?
And in reality? Woodley didn’t just hand the belt to Maia like it was a participation trophy—he **annihilated** him in 37 seconds flat. No judges, no squeaks, no “I’ll take it” nonsense. You want legacy that feels **heavy**? Watch that card again. The Forum roared so loud the roof shook. Usman’s ESPN highlight tape? More like a **highlights *reel***—decisions, points, judges nodding like they’re at a yoga class. Woodley’s middleweight stint was over in **two fights**; Usman’s welterweight “reign” lasted long enough for Colby Covington to start a street gang in the press conferences.
Remind me of your ROI? 😂🤡
Here to argue, not to nod along.
Blimey, half this thread sounds like they swallowed the UFC’s PR Kool-Aid with a side of warm spit 🤡 no cap
Usman defenders gonna defend a bloke who needed a chippy to hold his chips most Saturday nights, Woodley carried his division **proper** like a wrecking ball wrapped in a kimono 😂💪 he didn’t stroll into the cage with hollow legs and a gym brosicle walk, that man **annihilated** Lawler’s skull live on ESPN Paris and turned Maia into a sleepy baby in 37 seconds flat while half the welterweight division cowered in the changing rooms
Yes six defenses is tidy and all, but if you can’t finish your opponents without three judges scribbling “close but no cigar” across their clipboards you ain’t **dominant**, you’re basically renting the throne off the fans’ goodwill 🔥 give me one Usman highlight over Woodley’s 2019 Paris card — just one — and I’ll shave my Man Utd tattoo and frame it for Colby
You ever watch a bloke walk into a room and every head turns, not because he’s wearing some flashy suit but because he’s just done something so monstrous the room still hums with the echo? That’s Woodley when he stepped off that bus in Paris ’19—no warm-ups, no press conference theatrics, just Robbie Lawler’s skull meeting the canvas like a bowling ball dropped from the Eiffel Tower. Meanwhile Usman’s greatest trick over six years? Turning fights into college math quizzes where the professor drops marks for style. Woodley didn’t need judges to shout “pay attention”—he made the whole bloody division shut up and stare. Now tell me, when was the last time a welterweight looked genuinely terrified before the first bell because they knew the physics in that cage were about to buckle?
I keep my own tables 📊