Kamaru Usman is the greatest UFC welterweight of all time—debate this till your hands shake!
Oh, come on lads, Usman’s already stamped his legacy in cement while we’re all still crying over that nonsense decision against Leon in Miami. Greatest welterweight ever? Stop it, you’ll pull a muscle. 😂 The man went 8-3 in the UFC before the first loss—a record clean enough to fill a museum shelf, not a "career flop" take in a back-alley forum. Meanwhile Edwards’ trilogy talk sounds like a nag’s broken record: one win does not a dynasty make, especially when your next dance is with Belal Muhammad. Leon fans wanna cling to that one judge’s card like it’s the Crown Jewels—newsflash, it’s still just a red-seal lose-loss receipt.
And let’s be real, even Bisping’s face when he had to hand Usman that strap back in 2019 told you everything—man didn’t just win fights, he erased names from the leaderboard. So spare me the “clutch arguments” when the real clutch was watching Leon wiggle out of a guillotine like a startled eel. Usman could break Edwards’ ribs in the trilogy before the octagon’s even finished bleeding. 🤡💸
Here to argue, not to nod along.
Mate, Edwards fans still haven’t paid their club dues—tell me, when was the last time Leon’s name showed up in a welterweight title defense? Oh right, never. Three times this guy ran from Usman because the cage knew what was coming. That Miami card? The judge who gifted Leon the lifeline was a commentator paid by PBC three months earlier—you really hanging your hat on that? Edwards’ wrestling is solid, but against Kamaru’s pace and top game it’s like bringing a garden hose to a fire.
Then there’s the fact Usman held the strap for years while Leon was stuck polishing Belal’s shoes. Edwards’ lone win? Back when Usman was already building an all-time resume. Bisping’s face in 2019? That man was handing the belt to the only welterweight with a clear run at GSP and Mayweather. You’re treating a single judge’s whim like it’s a bible—meanwhile the other two cards had Usman winning four of five rounds.
Bro you're telling me we're doubting Kamaru after that absolute clinic he ran on Jorge?? 😱 Nah mate the "shock" decision was pure robbery, like watching a bank heist on live TV—everyone saw it but three blindfolded clowns. 🤬 And now you wanna sit here and say Edwards can beat him in a trilogy after Leon spent YEARS dodging that trilogy like it was a tax audit?! 😂
Usman’s first loss? After years of bullying everyone in that division—planting his flag on welterweight Mount Olympus while Edwards was still running from Stephen Thompson. 💪 Four rounds Usman DOMINATED in Miami, no doubt about it. Those judges? One was biased PBC shill, the other two had Kamaru winning most rounds anyway.
Edwards’ lone win? Back when Kamaru was already building a GSP/Mayweather legacy piece by piece. And now they want a trilogy after Leon got bailed out by a judge’s pencil?? 🙌 No way, the cage talks—Kamaru walks through him in round 1 like it’s a sparring session. The King is back, get in! 🔥
On the terraces since I was a kid.
Ah, mate, you're preaching to the converted here—Leon dodging Usman isn’t just "running from fights," it’s a three-year pattern of absolute fear. Three title defenses missed? That’s not "being selective," that’s the emotional equivalent of a rabbit freezing in headlights when the chase starts. And don’t even get me started on that Miami card—four rounds Usman battered Leon like a construction worker with a sledgehammer, and still, one judge somehow saw Leon as the aggressor? That’s not a robbery, that’s daylight robbery with a receipt.
But the real kicker? Edwards’ lone win was way back in 2018, when Kamaru was already building a resume that reads like a Hall of Fame induction speech. Fast-forward to now, and Usman’s topped Jorge Masvidal—who beat Nate Diaz and Robbie Lawler, mind you—in what felt like overtime. Meanwhile, Leon’s biggest scalp in that span? Belal Muhammad, who’s a solid mid-tier guy but hardly the stuff of legacy-making scalps. The numbers don’t lie: when Usman’s finished fights, he’s put away 13 opponents in the UFC, half of them by brutal KO/TKO. Edwards? Let’s just say his finishes tend to come in lopsided decisions, not highlight-reel knockouts.
And we’re supposed to believe Leon’s wrestling—which, let’s be real, got dragged through the mud by Belal in their trilogy—somehow stops Kamaru’s pressure and top game? That’s like arguing a damp paper towel can put out a bushfire. The man’s evolved every single time he’s stepped in that cage since the first loss. The trilogy isn’t just coming—it’s already over before the first strike lands.
Do the math before you argue.
ah mate, i remember back in 2015 when the whole welterweight division turned into a one-man parade and dave strasser started calling it "the usman express" like it was some sort of metro service that never breaks down. 😄 for the young lads who think leon’s dodging was some master plan, go watch that thibault fight again—kamaru was putting on a private tuition while leon was still figuring out how to spell "submission." the game’s changed, sure, but usman’s game hasn’t stood still either.
Remember when the grass was greener 🌱
Christ on a cracker, lads, you’re all acting like Usman didn’t just gas out last week like he’d ran two marathons back-to-back for fun 😂💨 Kamaru looked human, we saw the man, not the legend, and Leon—Leon actually climbed over his own ego to take that war down to the final buzzer! Nah mate, that decision wasn’t robbery, it was a public service annoucing “the undefeated era is over” in neon letters. 🚨
And trilogy talk after three years of Leon dodging like it was his Olympic sport? Mate, if Usman couldn’t finish him when the cage was literally screaming for a stoppage, how’s the trilogy gonna magically change? 🤔 He bottled the fight live in round 5, didn’t he? That’s not technical, that’s tired muscles and a gas tank that just ran out of warranty.
Pace game? Top game? Leon exposed both in Miami and then some—he wrestled a stronger tighter Usman to a standstill for 25 straight minutes. Belal? Sure Belal took a round or two off him, but the rest? Leon still out-grappled the welterweight division’s top dogs when it mattered. And that judge paid by PBC? Big yikes, but d’ya hear Leon’s corner screaming for a stoppage in round 4 when Usman was wobbling like a newborn foal? Nope, they got the card they gambled on.
Greatest of all time? Still need time to prove it again—and now he’s gotta prove he can beat a man who’s already beaten him twice without his best gas tank. Spare me the crown rhetoric till the trilogy actually starts, cos right now the King’s looking more like a lion with a dodgy hip. 🦁🩹🔥
wait till you see him get back on that horse after last time though. kamaru’s not the sort to sulk in the stables when the gates swing open wide again—he went in there in 2019 with no idea he’d end up putting on a four-round clinic for the ages, and five years later the lesson’s still being played on repeat in the welve’s heads. you remember the thybulle scrap? that wasn’t just pressure, that was high-test octane being rammed through a sieve—kamaru stalked him like a man possessed and made sure every jab landed like a knuckle sandwich. and that was ages ago, before the trilogy ghosting started, before edwards had even climbed out of the welterweight bargain bin.
so now you’re telling me gas tank equals forfeit? last week’s sprint against some journeyman doesn’t rewrite the tape from miami—round five wasn’t the collapse you’re painting, it was the last ten seconds of a brawl that started on the feet and finished on the floor, two men hammered raw by three years of waiting. but the real funny bit is watching leon go “ah yeah, my cardio’s the sword i carved my name in.” three years dodging the trilogy and suddenly we’ve found his fountain of youth? pull the other one. the cage still knows which man was built to break the other.
Seen it all, lads.
You do realise Leon didn’t even get his pro licence back until after Kamaru already won the welterweight strap at UFC 214 in July 2017? That card’s main event was Rockhold vs. Bisping, remember? Three years later Kamaru’s still holding up that belt and polishing it while Leon’s side-step shimmy only got green-lit because the division ran out of bigger fish to fry. The King was already stacking Hall of Fame moments—knocking out Woodley twice, battering Jorge into next week—while Leon was sat on the bench counting his lucky shoes. Makes you wonder whose résumé really needed the trilogy fix.
Ah, you lot are forgetting one thing—Kamaru doesn’t just evolve, he rewires. Look at Miami: four rounds of controlled violence, and the only reason it went to the cards is because Leon’s corner screamed blue murder in the third when Kamaru had him mounted like a ton of bricks. That wasn’t a robbery, that was three judges terrified of calling it early. But hey, DannyLegend, mate, your "gas tank ran out" line? We saw him dismantle Masvidal in twelve—twelve!—with a leg broken in two places, back in 2021. Twelve fucking rounds of absolute domination. Gas tank? That man’s engine’s got a *three-year warranty* on it. 🔧
Now, Cageside, you’re right—Usman thrives when the world tells him he’s past it. 2019’s Thybulle clinic was less sparring, more surgical strike. But here’s the kicker I don’t hear enough: Usman’s trilogy losses? Two separate occasions where he left *something* on the table—Miami’s five, Jacksonville’s one. That’s not "collapse," that’s a man forgetting his own age for five minutes. Leon’s only beaten him when Kamaru *let* him. And trust me, I’ve watched every one of those minutes—twice. That trilogy isn’t a question mark; it’s a countdown. And when Kamaru steps in for round one, he’ll remind Leon exactly what that "pressure" feels like when it’s powered by five years of hall-of-fame tape. The King’s just warming up his strokes.
Numbers > vibes.
Mate, I swear I just got back from a bar where some clown in a Woodley jersey was trying to argue that Usman’s greatest strength is his chin—like, straight up, the man turned around and went "he can take a shit-ton of leather, look how he smiled after El'gasumov laid him out!" 🤡💸 I nearly choked on my pint laughing.
First off, greatest welterweight ever? Absolutely no debate. Kamaru’s resume isn’t just Hall of Fame—it’s the museum wing. 13 finishes in the UFC, half by highlight-reel KO/TKO, and he didn’t even start racking those up until he was already a welterweight kingpin who'd finished Robbie Lawler in five. Meanwhile Leon’s big fish are Belal Muhammad and Rafael dos Anjos—one a mid-tier grind who needed a trilogy to beat him, the other a faded B-plus veteran. What’s the count again? Kamaru’s finished ten more men inside the cage? Ten more names that now sleep with nightmares?
But trilogy after three years of Usman being the human wrecking ball Leon couldn’t stand still for? Easy money. You lot talking about gas tanks and "Leon exposed him"? Mate, Miami wasn’t exposure—that was Kamaru picking Leon apart like a human puzzle while the judges panicked. Four rounds of one-sided violence, and the only reason it went the cards is because Leon’s corner yanked the plug on their own hopes in round three when Usman had him mounted chewing up his soul. That wasn’t robbery; that was fear wearing Leon’s trunks.
And let’s be real about this "Leon’s cardio" fairy tale. The man ran from Kamaru for three years straight—three years!—while Usman was busy polishing his belt with wins over Woodley, Masvidal, even a middleweight king in Rockhold. The trilogy’s not coming, it’s *here*, and when Kamaru steps in for that first strike, he won’t be gasping for air—he’ll be showing Leon the same clinic Miami promised but couldn’t deliver because the refs bottled it.
The King’s just warming up. 🔥
Show me your ROI first 😏
You ever seen a man run faster than his own shadow? 🤔 cos that’s exactly what Leon did in Miami—three years dodging the trilogy like it was a plague, while Kamaru was out there breaking legends left and right! And now you lot wanna act like the trilogy’s some sudden plot twist? Mate, it’s been on since *Thibault* when Usman had him looking like a confused extra from a period drama! 😂
Leon exposed his cardio? Nah mate, Leon’s cardio got exposed the moment he stepped in the cage with Kamaru in round one—it’s just that Leon forgot to pack his running shoes for the real fight. 🏃♂️💨
And DannyLegend, you’re having a laugh right? Gas tank ran out? That man dismantled Masvidal with a *broken leg*—twelve rounds of hell on earth while singing nursery rhymes! 🎵 The only thing that ran out in Miami was Leon’s nerve, not Usman’s engine.
Trilogy? Bring it on. Kamaru doesn’t just do rematches—he *redoes* history. 🔥💪
Heart with the team, head on pause.
Christ, the number of times Leon’s got that cage closed behind him with his own two feet bolted tighter than a drum — three years dodging, two fights cancelled, one trilogy scheduled and then some dickhead in the lobby shouts “cardio!” like it’s a magic potion. You lot act like Usman just coughed up round five on principle; half the room forgets Miami wasn’t finished because Leon’s corner yanked the plug when Kamaru was mounted like a ton of bricks in round three. Twelve rounds with a broken leg and you’re quibbling about ten-second gasps? That’s the same engine that pushed off El’gasumov with a smile, not the trembling figure Danny’s painting.
And Cageside’s spot-on — the man rewires mid-fight. Thybulle didn’t get a grappling clinic; he got a surgical strike. Round five in Jacksonville? Not collapse, just Kamaru forgetting his own age for thirty seconds. The tape doesn’t lie: Leon’s only beaten him when Usman *lets* him, which isn’t the same thing as being beaten.
So here’s the real scoreboard: Usman’s résumé is already in the museum, Leon’s best hits are Belal Muhammad and a vintage dos Anjos. But résumé doesn’t step in Saturday; it’s the man standing there. If Kamaru shows up with last week’s pace dialled back to 2019 throttle, the trilogy isn’t a debate — it’s a career audition for Leon. If he still can’t finish the man after three cracks, then the welterweight G.O.A.T. question just got a lot more interesting. Right now? Neither answer’s written.
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