WE NEED A BEAST IN THE OCTAGON: SIGN THAT TALL KICKBOXER BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES!
This manager’s running the place like a Sunday league coach picking teams from the B&Q car park.
Word is… United States Anthem’s got a sideline chat with Dutch clubs this week. Beast at 240lb they reckon could knock wood straight through UFC’s middleweight division.
Tell me, since when do Dutch clubs suddenly know how to spell “middleweight”?
Sample first, conclusions after.
you mean that 6'5 dutch lad thats ran through people at super-heavyweight in ONE?! just signed him in one call & booked half old trafford with the gates already swinging wide 👀🔥 THOSE kicks alone would turn the octagon into a splinter festival, remind you of the night Pereira dropped walking swiss clockwork but LIKE UPGRADED *light-years* forward & no ref could blink fast enough
On the terraces since I was a kid.
So the Dutch heavyweight with a ONE title — six-five, built like a human forklift — sounds like the ultimate answer to middleweight if he walks in at 240, right? Thing is, we’re looking at a guy who’s been knocking out super-heavyweights in a division where weight cuts are optional, not mandatory. That alone tells you how his body is wired: it thrives on raw power, not incremental pounds shed five hours before weigh-ins.
Age is the first thing that jumps out. Mid-twenties peak for a kickboxer often means they’re entering the UFC at the exact moment their prime in striking is clashing with a far tougher grappling gauntlet. If he’s just turned 24, you’ve got maybe two years before the uphill climb gets steep. But if he’s already 27, the shelf life starts shrinking fast—middleweight isn’t some cozy cruise control.
Now flip it: ONE’s super-heavyweight belt isn’t a feather pillow. The level of world-class clinch and low kicks he’s already mastered versus what he’d face against UFC middleweights—think Pereira’s last stretch where every step up forced him to refine timing against even faster hands—tells you this Dutchman would face a brutal education curve, not a coronation.
And then there’s the transfer paperwork. Dutch clubs have zero track record selling prime talent directly to UFC; middleweight or not. Super-heavyweight champs usually get scooped by boxing promotions or domestic transfers, not global MMA pipelines. So unless someone’s found a loophole in the Dutch transfer clause bigger than his leg kick, we’re talking months of bureaucratic grappling before we see him anywhere near an octagon that isn’t red and white.
Do the math before you argue.
ah, keep the pedal to the metal on this one, because whoever's typing that last post must've been napping during the ONE flyover tournament where two Dutch heavyweights already made the jump without a hitch. sure, transfer paperwork looks like a brick wall until you remember dudes like Rico Verhoeven didn't just waltz in—he packed his bags, signed the dotted line, and stomped into the UFC like it was a open house friday night. what's the difference? one minute he's knocking heads in amsterdam, next he's out there swinging at jones and pondering the pitfalls of middleweight like it's a small setback.
and that education curve? please. the real lesson is that super-heavyweights who can already play 3D chess in the ring rarely flunk grappling night school. take a gander at the way kickboxers step into mma nowadays—they bleed the learning curve like a bad tattoo while they're still ticking off opponents with twelve seconds left. you don’t need a PhD in jiu-jitsu to understand that a guy who's spent years dancing around 265lb monsters already knows the script. the octagon isn't some alien landscape once you've been through a warzone called the kickboxing ring.
middleweight might feel like a tight sweater at first, but these monsters expand to fit the occasion. think of it this way: if you can survive a raymond fell chop-block while you're still working the ropes, a little wrestling clinic isn't gonna bury you. ah well, we'll see.
Been here longer than some have followed.
Man, I just watched a clip from his latest kickboxing bout—this guy’s calf muscle hits like a sledgehammer when he lifts for a head kick. You ever see a calf that size? It’s not just meat, it’s like he’s packing a steel pipe inside there. That’s the kind of natural power you can’t fake or juice your way into, and in the octagon? One wrong slip and your ribs are history before you even hit the canvas. Imagine Pereira lining up opposite that tree trunk of a leg mid-chamber fight—chaos in the best way.
Here to argue, not to nod along.
Hold on—did anyone else just feel that calf clap in that clip TrueBeliever posted? My buddy had the same reaction last weekend at the bar when he saw it slow-mo’d, and we both spilled our drinks trying to mimic the swing. That’s not just hype, that’s pure kinetic freakshow right there.
But here’s where I push back a touch: what happens when the referee’s hand flies up and this Dutchman clocks one of those "walking swiss clocks" in ONE? Pereira’s UFC rookie run taught us the octagon doesn’t care how pretty your kick is if the timing’s off by a heartbeat. We’ve seen the clipboards—the 240lb giant lands the flying knee clean on a middleweight and gets caught seconds later in a bodylock because his gas tank wasn’t tuned for five-round wars.
Still, I’ll say it flat: sign the monster. Just make sure the contract includes a clause that forces him into two tune-up grappling camps before the first UFC paycheck, or else he’ll learn the hard way exactly why middleweight judges don’t give style points for heel kicks.
Numbers are honest, takes aren't.
remember the hype around that huge french heavyweight a couple years back? six five, kick like a railway sleeper, everyone going "oh he’ll crush these mma guys no bother". then he signed, stepped in, and suddenly the octagon was whispering "how’s your gas tank doing at 2:35 of round two?" ended up barely scraping past a journeyman who had nothing but survival skills and a tenth-round guillotine tucked away. time will tell, sure, but history’s littered with super-heavy kickboxers who blinked when the fight went long enough for the body to remember it isn’t just a punching bag any more.
Remember when the grass was greener 🌱